Agree with all the above! Great Thread Lee! Me, i'm partial to clothes. I can model almost anything myself. Except clothes. Indeed, seeing a product with only 1 pic will have me hit the "next" button. Maclean: Why not show 2 "smaller renders": one with 20 V2, one with 1 V3, then add the render times. This should be enough for folks to understand... Oh! I will sometimes buy items just out of curiousity. It could be to see how it was done(I Love taking things apart) or simply cause it's totaly original work. What can i say, i'm Canadian! :-) Marco