Nerd, Thank you for your reply. I tried the doubling method on Clara's dress in P5, and thought an intervening invisable layer to absorb the shadows might work to keep the pixels of death away but it becomes unrealistic at some point both from the memory standpoint and the amount of time required to make such adjustments. I might play around with it for my own amusement, but it appears impractical when at best theres a better solution. ... I removed my previous posts to both avoid confusion away from the subject, and to avoid turning what has been an informative and interesting thread into something else. If anyone has interest in what I deleted, I'll repost on another thread. - TJ