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Hey again Nance :) Thats exactly what i am saying :) Yes I have confirmed that. If I create a new light set and and render it before i save it, the shadow cams are there. If I then reload the lights into a scene the shadow cams are just gone. Heres a copy of a test light I made if you or anyone else are interested hehe I really do apreciate the time you have taken with me too! Wonderful :)