@jasonmit UofA = University of Arkansas And I agree, this is a very interesting thread. I expected to see most saying they are the geniuses who created amazing software by day or who were equally amazing 'tradition' artists. Sometimes I feel like I'm odd-man-out because of the standard of creativity around here. While I still feel a bit inferior and definitely humbled by the brilliance in this forum, I like that ya'll are really just people too. I know just what shadowdragonlord meant! :o) And Happy Birthday to all the July-ers. Looks like there's bunches of you.