Thanks for the input guys. What got me thinking about this was when I bought Mimic while it was on sale. It comes with what I think is Vic 1. It seems like I was instantly able to create more varied characters than I had been with the P5 characters. BTW, I'm running WinXP Pro, 1.9 ghz, 512 ram. I also want to do some animation (mostly MS agent stuff) and I for that I don't need extreme closeups or detail. Aggelos - don't laugh. I'm still trying to get the hang of where the POSER files go, I can't imagine what I would do with a INJ or REM file! Terry