Cooler, if you were to perform the conversions on a machine, and in a program, that did not have the Digimark software installed, does it still get regenerated? That is to ask, did it get retained because the Digimark software spotted it and re-wrote it during the file conversions? If you have an image posted somewhere that is marked, let me try the conversion to see. No biggie, just curious. btw - can you view pus ghetty's reposted jpg image on his page here? Or is it just me.