I think most questions have been answered but i'm a huge fan of cinema so i'll stick my oar in anway LOL.....pro pack with Cinema V7 is the automated way to get a poser figure in C4d but if stills are your main thing then p5 and R8 will work great (not the p5 hair though you can't use that)...like Stewer says rendering the same thing twice is not a good idea, but having said that 99% you'll get a better render in cinema and its much much faster....heres a few renders from cinema using P5 and the cloth room..Wdupre in cinemas case you just export an obj, import and add the textures...Steve http://www.poserworld.com/steve/litm.jpg http://www.poserworld.com/steve/lmonkeys.jpg http://www.poserworld.com/StevePublicPrvws/kidsbedroom.jpg http://www.poserworld.com/steve/thewhistleman.jpg