Thank you all very much .... I run a Linksys router which of course does not effect the programs out going requests. But I also run a software firewall to catch anything outgoing I might not want outgoing ;) ..... installed a newer version yesterday and made it ask me for anything outgoing. Well did this before with the older one but it came back into light tonight.

If I block access the first time I bring the Poser program up, it craps out. I have to let it have access the 1st time .... bring it up and then I can block all access and it will come up every time after that.

Now will try like hell to nose around ... over 2000 times worth of trying tonight but it will run every time after I let it come up without the firewall the 1st time.

The shutting down the LAN is a good idea I guess if you have it on more then one puter on the network (which I don't) .... but what a pain ya know????

Even XP will let you run it on more then one machine. That just does not sit well with me. If I buy a copy of Poser, and want to use it for my PERSONAL USE on more then one puter on my network. I should be able to without having to use tricks!!!

K