Aye, I agree with your statements Alvin Ylaya and Stephen Ray, too true! One should be flexible and able to create art from ANY energy, not just one tool alone. And Innovator, I stand corrected. You are right that most schools keep up on the times... I was thinking on a community college level (which I live right by) and not an art institute level, where they might have the funding for larger 3D endeavors. Green River Community College, here in Auburn where I live, does not have that kind of cash. (Yep, that's the same Green River where the Green River Killer's done his things for 20 years or so, may the Light save his soul) But, I'm fairly certain that since Corel has no certification in Bryce that there are a great many of us who could easily teach it at a community college level. I've heard tell of a certain someone using Bryce for his Intro to 3D Graphics class... Just an idea, but even in this thread there are enough Bryce Masters that would qualify for such a class, or something similar. Not to relegate Bryce to an "intro" level, but what program could possibly better introduce someone to the realm of 3D graphics!!!