Lemurtek < The reason I stated what I did on the Voodoo is my buddy has a Voodoo 5500 (64 megs onboard) and all his apps suck running under Voodoo's Glide. My TNT770 Ultra at 32 megs onboard cranks over his card with 3D apps. There's nothing wrong with his card or computer either because with games he beats me by miles (300fps w/Quake2 ,150 w/Quake3). He is also super certified computer man too so I know he know s what he's doing. If you feel your Voodoo is recommendable for 3D so be it , I persoanlly will never agree with that. 8oP Cheers!