Er... Let's not chase people away from here, ok? The guy asked a question. Answer it politely. EVERYBODY has the manual, it was released even before Poser 5 as a pdf, remember? Quoting manuals doesn't say a **** about a possible warez copy. And I don't see why you expect this to be. The guy is running Poser 5 without any SR's. So what? I'm running it without the latest one, SR3, coz it works for me with SR2[something I forgot] and I've heard a lot of bad things about SR3. I don't KNOW why anyone would want to run it with no SR's, but that doesn't make it warez, does it? And let the man call himself troll69. That doesn't MAKE him one :o)

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