me again thanks for the quick responce i will do the tutorials tomorrow..been on poser all night again ..what my project is....this is the real pain of my life....i want to do a poser animation of some one walking and posing and walking of....simple yes...!! but how do i keep the cloaths attached to her in the animation....and now this is the last blow....i want to take the holw set of shots say 200 frames into flash 4 and convert them to vector graphics..remake the hole movie in flash 4...and stick it on my website for my new intro.....lol lol any help with this would be realy cool and thanks for replying so soon balthaz@r