BTW, yes, Poser is definitely a weird program. This is primarily because: 1) It's hackable 2) It seems like it doesn't want to be hackable By that I mean that Poser is a program which uses human-readable source, and to support backwards capability that source maintains a structure and has 'features' hacked into it (sometimes well, sometimes sloppily, and sometimes unused, like the math valueOps) rather than defining a new format or a proper extension. It can be hacked (not in the sense of breaking into someone's server, but in the sense of 'what happens if I plug this in here'). Yet it's got very little documentation, and the human-readable markup it uses was not really intended for human eyes. (If it was, Poser itself would output it cleaner). The result is that there are several things you can make it do that not even the folks at CL or Metacreations ever expected. Like MAT poses, ERC (beyond PBMs and FBMs) and EasyPose, Delta Injection, Metamorphs (where you pose something, save it, morph it, save that, load the MT to the posed goemetry, save the deltas, and apply those deltas to the unposed model, possibly using ERC to apply the morph more up to 1 as it reaches the pose), Pseudoomnidirectional lights (bows along with Lesbentley), Superconformers (nods to Nerd), SET poses (bows again), Body Handles and the like (nods to Anton and Bloodsong), channel stripping, working cams (bows again), Gravity (lesbentley or EnglishBob, I forget, along with me), posable smartprops (wait...), and so on.