"Sounds like an "old wives' tale along the lines of swallowing a watermellon seed will grow a watermellon patch in your stomach. Or desperation to keep an idea from spreading and taking a chunk of change away from the original. ;^P" It's worse than that Illusions. Anton himself, just called my house literally screaming hysterically into the phone for about 20 minutes before he hung up on me. Nothing I could say calmed him. Not even pointing out that our Pro Club products support his Platinum Club product releases, and what is good for us is also good for him, thus good for the goose is good for the gander reference. I managed to take a bit of dication before I was too hurt and upset and crying too hard to type anymore. Some of the words he shouted at me are these: ====================================================== "If you try and copy the Platinum Club you will cripple your store. Don't go there. Only I know how to make such a thing work, you can't copy it Liz!" "You put Russell up to being disrespectful of me in public and accusing me of having attitude, don't lie and tell me you didn't!" "You need to snap out of this world you are living in because you've pissed me off royaly. When you are closed out, when you are working at Walmart Liz, don't say I didn't tell you so. I will ruin you!" "You have shown disrespect for the last time Liz." "I made you, and I can take you down. You will never work in this business again if I don't want you to." ====================================================== As an aside, I'd like to mention that Russell made his posts to this thread quite on his own, while I was sleeping, without any prodding or input from me. He usually does that ;) Then I get up to face the music! ;p If anything is influencing Russell it is the fact Anton likes to call our house at 3:00 AM our time, and sort of be a slight "braggy-bully" toward me in the calls in the past. Anton is way way out of control.