Well, thanks for the comments. My time is limited 'cuz I'm puting a rental property on the market for sale... so all of my free time is taken up painting, patching and cleaning. I really like the concept of this challenge, and I'm endeavoring to learn the DTE, I just don't know if I can put anything together. If anyone wants to play with this texture, give me your email address and I'll send it to you. May you have good luck with it!