Stuie the only way you will be able to get a 10'x 8' rendered is to send the file to a farm. I rendered a 2'x 1' and it took 6 days and fifteen hours and I run NT on a dual PIII 700 mhz with 1GB of ram and a 3D labs oxygenGVX1 card. The problem is probably not your machine the problem is Bryce. As much as I liked using Bryce 3 and now Bryce 4 they have got to have one of the slowest render engines available Chris-S