well, we could make it on gamesnet and pass it off as game modelling (since it has to be game related). or we could do it on efnet -where i'm stationed right now in some rooms. the problem with efnet is that there needs to be someone trustworthy 24/7 on the channel, or for someone with a server to set up an eggdrop bot to keep the channel alive. otherwise the moment ops leave any user can become op and it's not pretty. we could also trade models. Drac