It seems to me that erka is getting some unfair verbal stick here, I read nothing authoritarian in the words, it sounds like a reasonable request to me. I found when I first started that it was easy to forget where I got textures from if I just stuck them in a folder labelled textures, I have not got round to learning to create all my own textures yet. I realised that those free textures must be important to me, and if so I have a moral obligation to find a way of remembering. The simple way was to create a new folder with the name of the website the texture was downloaded from, then when I move it into Vue or other graphics program, I just add the name of the website to the texture name, no great hassle. I have only used about one free model in the images I have done but the same procedure applies, a folder with the website or creators name on it, if I consider it worth using then I owe the person that kindly gave it a credit. I consider everybody who assists me in creating my image whether by tutorials, free stuff or purchased items are partners in the creation, why would I use these additions to my art if I was capable of doing all of it myself. Even programs are important to mention, look at the excellent Wings 3d, totally free and a wonderful program created by Bjorn, who spends endless time on it, if he can spend all that time for no returns, doesnt he deserve credit. As far as taking items out of the Vue example images is concerned, I consider that taboo, in my book they are on the CD to assist you to understand how to compose images, not to plunder for free stuff. There are far too many taking particularly free stuff for granted, that it may just end up with fewer people being prepared to supply it. I frequently dont bother to comment on images if I have no clue of what was created by the image creator and what by others, how do I know which is the image creators input, I have seen some images that would have been nothing without freestuff. I dont supply any freestuff in case anybody wonders if I have a personal axe to grind. To answer Joerg, its not about fame, its just thanking people for their help, and there is far too little of that in the world today. Dave