I am glad this subject came up, I made my first picture recently using Vue, I use Bryce mostly. One of the reasons I created the picture with Vue was because there was a shark scene, it was useful for a picture I wanted to create. I deleted the sharks and altered the angle of the lights for the effect I wanted. I just thought if it was on the Vue CD, it was there to be used. But after reading the posts here I didn't realise this was a point of major debate. I think most people who purchase Vue for the first time would think the scenes are part of the Vue product which they bought. Peter