ok ang25 - I also had a Grape 1973 gremlin (1st car) 1975 orange firebird, 1979 white formula, with one of those big eagles on the hood 1973 mercury monteray with the biggest trunk i ever saw, 1967 camaro convertible, stolen out of ny driveway 1982 datsun 280Z,flipped it inside the Midtown Tunnel in NYC 198? riviera that I paid 50 bucks for and lasted like 3 years, 1980 white volvo, I had a 1992 volkswagon fox, hit a house and wiped out a bush briefly a light blue chrysler cordova with white roof ( pimp mobile) I remeember having a blue firebird at some point too but dont remember what year, I think it was my first stick shift plus my 2 cars and truck from above.... anyway , we ARE BOTH PRETTY EVEN - I HAD FUN WITH THEM ALL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID TOO! I thINK THAT GREMLIN LIKE CAR YOU HAD WAS AN AMC Pacer???? roch222