"Or maybe they're doing their homework and getting the product done right before releasing it." That's just another way of saying the same thing. Fact is they haven't released the beta as early as they expected, so they have presumably hit some not minor problems. But this has been discussed in other threads, I'd like this thread, if I may, to debate whether we have too high expectations of Daz Studio and I also wonder if Daz have the skills to compete with Curious Labs in the software market. Have they promised too much?