First of all i would like to apologize again to anyone who was offended by anything i said. English does not come naturaly to me, i am translating from my own language, and i guess it sounds a bit harsh to some. I do not mean to offend, and i respect all that has been said here, wether i agree with it or not. I'll try to refer to that Vue CD issue from my own personal point of vue: at the time, E-on asked me to include some of my models in the objects folder on the CD. One of those objects for example was the Angel fish (Scalar). Since then i have seen it in many many images here, and i am very happy to see it used, sometimes in wonderful images. I never asked for credits on this one, because nowhere is it written that i am the modeler of that object. Since e-on included some of my images on the examples CD, they asked me to add the scenes too. my understanding was that those scenes will serve Vue begginers as learning tools. Maybe i was naive, but i never thought people will use parts of those scenes for their own images. Now, if somebody takes an object or two, that's fine with me. But the images i talked about in my previous post were done by taking virtualy the whole scene, with some minor changes. I am not talking law here, i am not talking rules, i am just talking common sense. I mean, my name is clearly written on these images and scenes! Why on earth would somebody want to do that? It looks to me like disregard for the original artist's feelings. So all i am saying is, no matter what the law says, there is a minimum of ethical integrity that we all need to use...