ok i have locked through my linklist, and heres what i found: http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp http://ambientwhisper.cgcommunity.com/Tutorials/facial/Page-1.html http://www.secondreality.ch/tutorials/modelling/head.html http://www.thehobbitguy.com/tutorials/polymodeling/index.html and some links regarding the famous "edgeloops" ;) once u understand them they`ll be your best friend !! http://cube.phlatt.net/home/spiraloid/index.html http://maxrovat.sns.hu/subdiv/ http://www.izware.com/news/indexa446.html (good luck with this one, is down half of the year :( ) thats it for now happy modelling christian