I still find I am left with a question regarding the example images. When I first had Vue I used the example pictures to assist me to understand the way Vue pictures were assembled, I realised when you rendered them that Vue plants that did not come with the program were not in the images and it just rendered black. My opinion at the time and has been up to now that as it didnt state you could use the content, then you probably couldnt, I approached it obviously from the opposite direction to many. My other reason was that some of the models if not the image creators own copyright, may well be copyrighted to the original supplier, if a figure, it might be Poser or other, and any other model may also have a copyright separate from the image creator. Am I right in presuming then that e-on get clearance on copyright regarding all models contained within example images, so that the program user could not find themselves in breach of copyright laws. Dave