Attached Link: GamePC Xeon review

No problem, forester. That's why I replied :) I've had pretty good luck with Radeons lately, thought it did take ATI a few driver iterations to get their OpenGL implementation in shape. I'm getting myself a Shuttle XPC (SN61G2, the Springdale one) and stuffing a 9800Pro in it shortly. From what I've seen from other people's tests using Cinema4D, it's extremely fast. I did a bit of looking around; E7505 boards aren't easy to find, but they're not outrageously expensive. There is a review up at gamepc.com (linked), that gives a pretty good idea as to how well the P4/XeonDP performs with a fair variety of workstation applications. BTW -- AMD is supposedly going to be releasing the 2 GHz Opterons in a couple of weeks... that might be well worth a look. There are a couple of dual-CPU Opteron boards built for workstations (i.e. that include AGP) in the works that should be available by then, so hopefully the Arima/Rioworks HDAMB won't be the only one by then. BTW, the HDAMB is $299... not bad for a dual Opteron board with AGP and support for 8 GB ram.