I understand that many people are disapointed with poser 5,But try to see it from this standpoint we all could be still useing poser 4, And poser 5 does have a better renderer and some neat stuff and allows us to make are own figures. I for one know that im going to run into some of these problems with poser 5 sooner or later but im very happy happy to see the new renderer and other features, I think the materiels room is a little bit of a learning curve and the figure creation room but I think it was worth it and hey even if the hair room is a little crappy right now it can only get better by poser 6;.