The one in post #2 looks like the reinforcing rods they put in concrete after the old concrete has been busted up and you have all those bent-up rusted rods sticking out.

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy