Thanks! I got the .01 patch where you pointed me and it works fine. I agree with you re MetaCreations' abandonment of what must be a rather large installed base. They could at least keep their web site's support links active, especially for products not yet adopted by someone else. I can't imagine that our good will isn't worth the minor amount of work (if any work at all) involved. I'm not planning on being a big advocate of metastream! Thanks again, Bela