What in the world is wrong with postwork??!!! I've heard this time and time again from purists in another programs community (I won't name names), that if one really knows how to use the program then they don't need to do postwork. Bah! Postwork is what makes the image really yours and not just another angle, pose, vicky in a temple. Not that I'm banging Vicky in a temple, but if you do postwork to say the hair or clothes, then you'll never see another Vicky with that same hair and clothes, right? And lets not forget that Poser and Vue and Bryce aren't 3D Studio Max and Lightwave and Maya. There's limits - limits that can be corrected with postwork. Which to me essentially means, one IS getting the best out of the program when one can come up with results like SkoolDaze or Rhiannon or voodoo, Ecstacy or any of the other postwork greats around here. Silly me, I actually look for good postwork when I browse the galleries ;o). Laurie