I have it too (ok ok, I'll admit it, a COPY of it :), and its just sitting there, and although ive heard rave reviews on it, I have heard the same thing IronBear... and i dont need that sort of addiction. Especially now that im focusing my attention on learning Poser4, then Ray Dream, Carrera, Canoma, TrueSpace, 3D Studio MAX, Painter 3D, and Bryce. do NOT ask me why i all of a sudden out of the blue decided to take all this on, but im realizing its something i wouldnt mind doing with my life, and i gotta start somewhere... so soon i can say, "Now I know!" .... and knowing is half the battle. [deletes last two cheese lines :] "Its all about your perspective..." ..->[ aMP-3 ]<-..