Easy Pam, remember your blood pressure. :-) Perfectly natural for folks to be concerned about their CC info, when they've become programmed (no offense to anyone) to expect the little padlock. As an outside source, I can tell you that Pam is correct, everything is quite secure, and you can feel safe ordering, even if you don't see the little padlock. It's prevented from showing due to the layout of the site, which I'm sure Pam is handling with her programmer (with a baseball bat, by this point). :-) In any event, no one needs to stress, it's all good. And Pam, thanks for the freebies! ChromeTiger