pdxjims your bet is Aug 27? the newsletter said expect soeming for platinum members next week, sort of the same sales pitch they said for V3. My bet is Aug 2 for M3, then the mimic vouchers wont work and I'll have to pay more hahaha. xena, thanks for the info on the camera folder, I'm gunna have to start doing that, my files are all over the place quite messy even with Poser 5.