<< ....and regarding wings, I tried it but didn't like the controls very much .....You don't need to click on any buttons because just about everything can be done with the keyboard.... >> The vast majority of tools (within Wings) can be assigned to hotkeys of the users' choice - the same hotkey can be used for the same command across all 4 selection modes (verts/edges/faces/objects) eg - it's then possible to have 5 keys for all (19) of the major move commands - and therefore not have to touch the menus :) (I also have a similar setup covering scale/extrude/extr region/rotate etc) Anyway, good luck - whatever you use :) pp