Rawnrr: yeah... ernyoka1 pointed that out when she saw my test renders... I agree in principle.... but wasn't really aiming for realism with this piece... more for effect. And I fink if something was jumping through the ring... the draught would kinda blow the flames sideways... well a little bit... that's my excuse anyway ;) And... I wouldnt want the flames to go tooo high... cos the lions and tigers and other assorted animals might burn their... errr... private bits.. LOL ziggie

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