I hope I didn't come across as disrespectful. Had no intention of being so. Of course I appreciate all genres, but it just struck me to be quite one-sided, this and other forums. There are very many voluptuous women with big breasts and sweat-beads in strategic places. Not so many wrinkled 70 year old women with chicken-pox marks all over the face. :-) But that's just an observation, not a judgement. I had no intention what so ever to pass judgement, otherwise I would have to go to the docket myself first of all. I just reacted a bit to insomniaworks assertion that realism was the key to quality, and that I -- respectfully! -- disagree with. There are examples of excellent works of art that's not a bit realistic. So realism isn't the key to quality. Mastery of the craft, and the tools, is -- and his images above are excellent!