Go to Rubio's Room... she has turned the P4 girl into a nice young lady with a decent dress. Jackie's site has some kid-clothes, too. You'll have to ask for permissions for commercial use, but at least you'll be starting with free/inexpensive models. Also, you might be able to get Poser 5 for less than the cost of the Millkids and their stuff. Will and Penny don't look bad... and can be used in p4. Carolly