Nothing in the temp file, Dc. I started from fresh this morning, Catlin, added a couple of things but it was really struggling so I shut down the PC and restarted it. When I went to reload the file in Bryce, it didnt want to know. I usually make progressive saves as I go along but this time I only had the one. My fault. Ive put the pic into poser as a background and managed to put a few seagullls on there but thats all. Think I lost some quality doing that. I may even go back and start again sometime, when I stop screaming.LOL