Okay, I see your point Cin-, queri. I mentioned the jpg files for bump maps being a royal pain, but I do understand trying to keep the d/l size down. And, most of the merchants do tell you they will have to be converted. Pose files with MTs, etc. are worse. I agree with you, Cin-. There isn't any reason not to make them P4 compatible. On the other hand, if the product is nice, no reason not to buy it. You know, I think I did get one of those hamburgers. I threw it away. I guess that just proves your point.