sigh I always liked Dork and Posette, but for the 3d comic project I'm starting now I've gone to Mike and Vicki, mostly because there simply isn't any support anymore. Decent textures, clothes, etc. for the stock P4 figures are awfully hard to come by these days, especially since I'm strictly avoiding anything that can't be used commercially. As far as "Dork", that's mostly because of the fish-eye-lens effect of Poser's default Face Camera setting, which makes any figure look dorky. Adjust the camera properly and he looks fine. Add a quality texture and you've got a great figure. And he doesn't have breasts! YAY!;)