Well I found out from Eovia it is not a bug. they moved the skylight controls to the render options. SSo to get the same effect as in CS2.1 I had to enable the skylight option and set it to 400%. Now doing this kills the render time and it takes 7 minutes on Mac. Not sure on PC yet so the previous benchmarks are no longer valid. I am now wondering if this is the cause of the speed improvements on the other tests I have read about on Yahoo... Hmm.... Not much of an improvement there, about 20 seconds. Well I guess that is better then nothing and perhaps other scenes will give better results. Regards, Paul