Well this isn't the stupidest thing, but it fits in with the forum. I was in the DTE experimenting with a terrain texture, I would make a change and go back and render to see how it looked. However, everytime I made a change, I couldn't see a difference. After 15 minutes of countless tweaks and tries with no results I remembered I had duplicated the terrain and set it to invisible for safe keeping. I thought I was working on the visible terrain, NOT the invisible one. lol Someone hand me an orange cone to wear.