But, but, ToonyJoey doesn't sound as cute as ToonyRoo. ;) Thanks for all the comments. Yeah, he needs some little red boxing gloves. For those who have ToonyCat, ToonyRoo is basically a rabbit or donkey head with a mouse tail, elongated hind feet, and Silverleif's lion texture. I'll make a pose file for him when I get a chance. Veritas, ToonyCat (based on Toonimal Kitty and at DAZ, but not sure it is legal for me to give a link) has a lion and a tiger, though the lion doesn't have a mane. And, he makes lots of toony critters. :) Beth