Well you could have got Victoria V 1.0 free with Computer arts a few months ago, there's always the MayaDoll from Studio Maya, (ask somebody for a link, I'm in a net cafe in Bucharest at the mo') If you really mean a "doll" then DAZ did a free rag-doll a while back, (6 months to a year or more, not sure) there should be textures for it in free stuff. later jb