Well, the easiest thing was giving it the darn texture it wanted-- I still got the render I asked for-- against black, no background. I've given up trying to make Poser make sense. You know, it's so irrational, I'm wondering if we're not dealing with artificial intelligence gone mad. It's certainly as un-predictable as your average sociopath. You know it's gonna screw up, but tryng to guess when and why is impossible. Emily only half kidding.