Mac, have you tried y scaling the floor, does that help? Connatic, glad you like the new SHADOW_CAM_LITE's, I was thinking of posting them in the free Stuff, but then I thought most people would not know what they were and just get confused. Speaking of confusion, please note that the numbering of the SHADOW_CAM_LITE's in the menu can get confused in some circumstances, and not match the number of the associated light. Fore instance, load a doc that contains only the 3 default lights, delete the 3 lights, now apply the ShaDCamsPlus2.pp2. The lights will be numbered 1 to 3, but the SHADOW_CAM_LITE's will still be numbered 4 to 6, they will still work OK, It just gets confusing trying to figure out which cam goes with which light. One of the major dissapoinments in my life has been that I haven't yet found a way to change the focal length of a SHADOW_CAM_LITE :( P.S. The focal length of a SHADOW_CAM_LITE attached to a LIGHT seems to be longer than one attachet to a spotLight!!!