'Mac, to use all spotLights, delete the 3 LIGHTS that Poser usually adds to a new doc by default, then just new spotLights via the Light Controles pallet' les, I tried this and it doesn't work. No matter what you do, poser names the first 3 lights LIGHT 1, 2 and 3. I even set the default state with no lights, then added them, but they're still called LIGHT1, 2, 3. Thanks for the files les. I'll try these out. The numbering of shadowcams is a bit of a nightmare. I noticed that it always starts from 4 when adding spotlights. I couldn't figure out poser's logic at all. That's why I renamed all the shadowcams to match the lights. It's a lot easier.