One thing I've figured out about the shadows (with spotlights), is that the further away the light is from the figure, the LOWER the Angle End setting has to be to get a decent shadow. Of course, this also decreases the field of usable light - exactly the opposite of the way lights behave in reality. In real life, the further away a light is, the more it spreads. Example - For a light that is 1.00 trans (or 1 poser unit) away from a figure, the End value can go up to 120.00 (but no more), and still give a reasonable shadow. Increase the trans to 2.00, and End has to go down to 60.00 or even 40.00 to get the same shadow quality. This is without touching the shadow cams, and obviously, you can improve the shadow by using them, but the above values can't be changed by much. I've finished my light sets and left the shadow cams at very general settings. But I've added a short explanation of how to use them to the Help File, so users can set them up for to their own scene. More than that.... I can't do. mac PS les - An interesting demonstration.