I'm not sure who built this - ockham or joey. Whatever. For whoever did build it, if I can offer a piece of advice, I think the model needs it's vertices split in uv mapper. If you look at the 1st image in this thread, top right shot, you can clearly see the unsplit surface (unless it's some weird reflection map effect). But I can see it on the sides too. It looks really good. I'd just take care of that one detail and it'll be perfect. 'the more light I poured onto the top, the darker it got' This is probably the explanation. mac