I have recently started using P4 and have come across this problem as well. The best advice i can give is.... Specticles, Testicles, Wallet, Watch. :) no honestly, an ameteur-yet-easy-to-grasp way to do it is since you have two characters, pick one. go on, it isnt that hard. now, move that one to where you want it to be. For the second character, try rotating it to face the same way as the first, then use the "X/Y/Z trans" dials to position him. then make the little alterations. Im sure a pro could do it quicker and easier in about 5 min, but id rather (ok ok no i wouldnt :) be the one to say, "all in a nights work!" ..->[ aMP-3 ]<-..