Yes, Dave! My brain is clobbered with such silly lines. :-) "...We will not go quietly into the night..." Ah! Now, those figure heights make more sense. My commercial involves architectural & mechanical stuff. That means exact scaling across the board... Now, when i get into Poser world, i'm less inclined to measure things, cuase it's "Play time" for me then. But, it's great to have some reference point nonetheless. :-) Marco[The man with half a brain]